Li was born on April 30, 1968 in Dandong, China . He ended up in a medically induced coma and is still recovering. He legally changed his name to Will Baker and currently lives free. I don't think Vince Li can be trusted to take his medication.". EpiPens dont work in space? I am not free': Witness to killing of Tim McLean, CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices. Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience. The week following the attack, Greyhound Canada announced it was pulling a series of nationwide advertisements which included the slogan, "There's a reason you've never heard of bus rage.". Blood-dripping knife in one hand. A man who was found not criminally responsible for beheading and cannibalizing a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada has been granted his freedom. "If he's not responsible for his own behavior, then the state, the government, must step in and be responsible for him for the rest of (his) natural life.". He settled in Winnipeg and worked in Edmonton. He was shipped to a secure treatment facility. Lost contact with her when this happened. Now that Vince Li understands what hes capable of when he goes off his medication, why on earth would he want to do that? Enter your email address below and get your FREE eBook IN THE ATTIC A Psychological Thriller Based on a True Crime Story. Editorial: With no conditions, Vince Li is a threat. If you are a Home delivery print subscriber, unlimited online access is, Never miss a beat in Canadian Curling with the new On The Rocks newsletter, Stay Posted on Canadian Curling with the On The Rocks newsletter, Call Vince Li ('Will Baker') what he is: A cannibal killer who beheaded Tim McLean, WARMINGTON: The Kayla Lemieux show cancelled; no longer at Oakville school, Chris Rock will finally hit back at Will Smith over Oscars slap, Maple Leafs lose to Edmonton Oilers as Connor McDavid scores two Sheldon Keefe must find right fit for new defence, NO JACKET REQUIRED: Blue Jays pack away home run jacket as part of gritty new attitude, Vince Li is pictured at a court appearance in a Portage La Prairie, Man. This is the same line of reasoning that would protect you if you broke the law while sleepwalking. DID MARILYN MONROE REALLY COMMIT SUICIDE? You may use a different browser or device to view this in full screen. Vince Li, the accused in the Greyhound bus beheading of Tim McLean, appears in a Portage La Prairie court Aug. 5, 2008. WHATS YOUR EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT (E-IQ) SCORE? Now Li had Tim on the aisle floor, still plunging and plunging. (John Woods/Canadian Press). Li was found not criminally responsible for the July 2008 death of Tim McLean, a young carnival worker who was sitting next to Li on a bus near Portage la Prairie. Deemed not responsible. McLean had his eyes closed and was listening to music on his headphones when Li, a stranger who was sitting beside him, suddenly stood up and started stabbing him. But could it be prevented? WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN NATALIE WOODS DEATH? On Greyhound 1170, Vincent Li, a diagnosed schizophrenic, sat beside young 22 year old McLean and then, obeying voices inside his head, repeatedly stabbed and decapitated him. Coronavirus: What one of the youngest patients in a B.C. As long as the individual "does not pose a significant threat to the safety of the public," he or she must be discharged absolutely. It's sad that people forget that the person who did this have family that are innocent of the situation. There were plenty. That's an incredibly 90s haircut for 2008. There was an error, please provide a valid email address. Around 8:30 pm, Greyhound 1170 was an hour west of Winnipeg on the . Today, Vince Li is a free man. BRINGING LIFE TO THE DEAD WITH CGI TECHNOLOGY, SCHMEGELSKY & MCLEOD: THE SENSELESS STORY OF TWO KILLER KIDS, THIRTEEN TERRIBLY CLOSE CALLS WITH NUCLEAR BOMB ACCIDENTS, IS THE MEANING OF LIFE A HAM SANDWICH? Then Li stood. GLOSSOPHOBIA OVERCOME YOUR FEAR OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, DEMYSTIFYING SHOW VS. 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DID VINCENT VAN GOGH REALLY COMMIT SUICIDE? An Ontario father has become an advocate for people designated "not criminally responsible" after his daughter was nearly stabbed to death in 1999. His own brain chemistry was failing him. by Six Nations Rugby. They neglect victim and family rights. Vince Li was undiagnosed before he beheaded Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus eight and a half years ago, meaning he has never had to voluntarily stick to a treatment plan. HOW DO YOU GET INTO CSI, THE CRIME LAB, OR THE MORGUE? Vince Li got on that Greyhound prepared to kill. Hed also been injured in his attackstandard police procedure even for as bizarre a crime as this. Vince Li was a ticking bomb. The killing of Tim McLean occurred on the evening of July 30, 2008. By 2015, Li was in a half-way house and only monitored for medication. There is a reason why offenders deemed not criminally responsible are sent for treatment, not imprisonment, and why they are eventually released: if we accept that an illness compelled someone to commit a crime the man in the mask, pressing a gun into his ribs it is unjust to keep that person confined when that illness is under control. Li was cuffed and it was over. He wasnt in a normal, functioning state of mind when he killed Tim McLean. Finally, on February 10, 2017 Vince Lee was declared completely stable and reliable to function on his own, including regulating his own medseven though all psychiatrists agree schizophrenia is an incurable mental disease. On the other hand, convicting someone for an act that they had no conscious knowledge or control over would be barbaric, and in Canada, we dont punish people for doing something they have no control over. Vince Li was sitting near the front. Baker was found not criminally responsible (NCR) for killing Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in 2008. There was little regard for the publics protection that Linow Will Bakerwould be permanently locked up like the law should allow. Li was born on April 30, 1968 in Dandong, China. This case opened a Pandoras Box containing the issue of long-term criminal responsibility by the mentally ill. But today Li is closer to being a free man, with no conditions. 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"My son died this way to shed light on the issue," DeDelley told reporters. Tim smiled. And its about proper public protection. I think she deleted her Facebook because of the publicity and questions. JUST HOW DEADLY IS NOVEL CORONAVIRUS AND COVID-19? Family and friends of victim Tim McLean, wearing t-shirts remember him, enter the Law Courts in Winnipeg, Canada, March 3, 2009 prior to the trial of Vince Li. Li turned and made eye contact. Success in mental health is measured by restoring someone to a healthy state and maintaining it. (CBS/AP) WINNIPEG, Manitoba - Vince Li, the man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada, has won the right to be allowed to leave the grounds of the mental. I asked him about Vincent Li earlier this week: . In Canada we have legislation in place that would acquit someone, or label them as not criminally responsible (NCR) for their actions, if mens rea was not present in an illegal act. From 1994-1998, Li worked in Beijing as a computer software engineer. IS SCIENTOLOGY A CRAZY CULT AND BIG FAT GLOBAL SCAM? But you simply cant kill a deranged man in this situation. TRUE STORY HOW A GHOST CONVICTED A MURDERER, THIRTEEN TERRIBLY CLOSE CALLS WITH NUCLEAR WEAPON ACCIDENTS. Since Li only killed one victim, the term "M.O" is somewhat misused. University of Winnipeg and downtown community newspaper. By all accounts, Li was described as normal. If you kill someone, you should lose your freedom. Manitoba's Criminal Code Review Board. DID LIZZIE BORDEN REALLY AX-MURDER HER PARENTS? No one argued that. At the same time, he is being treated, not cured, which means there is always the potential of his masked man coming back. Where critics of the case have a point is in the decision to grant Li an absolute discharge, meaning he is essentially free of the justice system, rather than a conditional discharge, whereby Li would be required to stick to a treatment plan or report regularly to a psychiatrist. The innocent and unsuspecting victim was Tim McLean, 22, a carnival worker heading home for a break. The review board said the passes will start at 30 minutes and increase incrementally to a maximum of full days. Li listened to what he had to say before; the system should make it harder for thatto happen again. Vincent Weiguang "Vince" Li is a Chinese-Canadian man who, on July 30, 2008, brutally killed and cannibalized a 22-year old Canadian man Timothy Richard "Tim" McLean, Jr.. After being apprehended following a 1-day stand-off, Li was found not guilty by reason of insanity and spent six years in a mental hospital before being released in 2015. I am not at risk for anybody. Ratheras shocked, gasping witnesses describedLi robotically plunged the blade into Tims shoulders, neck and chest. Over and over and over. DeDelley wants Li kept in a mental hospital permanently, but expects that he will gain more freedom every year until he is eventually released. Its exactly like it never happened. After six years, Li was released in 2015. You can argue lack of intent due to mental incapacity all day long. Read more about cookies here. "I take my medication everyday. It was at this time I interviewed Carol de Delley, McLeans mother, at her home on the outskirts of Winnipeg. "Kill them, or I'll kill you.". Vince Li was found not criminally responsible. It was senseless. End of story. 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The innocent and unsuspecting victim was Tim McLean, 22, a carnival worker heading home for a break. Then waking up to someone stabbing you repeatedly, for no reason. Vince Li, who now goes by Will Baker, was granted full discharge Friday afternoon. Li's trial began on March 3, 2009. Shell never get over this. And people are flawed. DEFUND (ELEMENTS) OF THE POLICE BUT LET COPS BE COPS, BESIDE THE ROAD NEW BASED-ON-TRUE-CRIME SERIES BOOK #4, THE TRUE STORY ABOUT WHO REALLY STOLE JFKS BRAIN, WHY IT TAKES SO LONG TO MAKE A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE, WHY CASEY ANTHONY GOT AWAY WITH MURDERING HER DAUGHTER, FROM THE SHADOWS NEW CRIME BOOK RELEASE FROM GARRY RODGERS. Mounties look into the bus in which Vince Li was holed up along with the decapitated body of Tim McLean. This website uses cookies to personalize your content (including ads), and allows us to analyze our traffic. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! A forensic psychiatrist was quoted saying at Lees release hearing that, in his opinion, Li had only a 0.8% chance of relapsing. TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION + UNNATURAL MAYHEM. It was left to the system to deal with Vince Li. Furthermore, its important to remember that Li has been under observation by psychiatrists since 2008, and no psychiatrist would likely ever go before a government board and recommend Lis freedom unless that psychiatrist is willing to bet their professional reputation, and the publics safety, on that individuals future. He tried to fight back. Tim McLean was an innocent young man. On July 30, 2008, when Vince Li killed and dismembered Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus, he truly believed that he had just saved the world; that he had been sent by God to kill a demon that threatened not only his own life but also the lives of others. Box 500 Station A Toronto, ON Canada, M5W 1E6. (CBS/AP) WINNIPEG, Manitoba - Vince Li, the man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada, has won the right to be allowed to leave the grounds of the mental hospital where he is being kept, a criminal review board ruled Thursday. He then decapitated him and proceeded to mutilate and cannibalize his body, eating his eyes and part of his heart. Theres no system oversight. money laundering investigation ends without charges, RCMP believe Slave Lake toddler Jeffrey Dupres, missing for 43 years, is still alive, NASA didnt know: Ottawa elementary school students make breakthrough discovery, NDP, Conservatives push for inquiry into foreign election interference allegations, Edmonton mayor hoping for more than budget promises, Indigo wont pay ransom to hackers, says stolen employee data may appear on dark web this week, Nigeria federal election: Opposition vows to challenge results. Vince Li and the Greyhound Bus Murder (Bus 1170) - Eye Witness describes beheading (Interview) Serial Killer Minds 36.7K subscribers Subscribe 148 13K views 2 years ago On Greyhound 1170,. On July 29, 2008, Li boarded a bus heading for Winnipeg and arrived in Erickson. Then Tim leaned back against the window with his headphones on and drifted off to sleep. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Something to consider about killersthey can be very, very good actors. Convicting someone for only thinking about committing an illegal act, without them actually taking any action to do so, would be an example of thoughtcrime, something straight out of the famous dystopian novel 1984, by George Orwell. Tim let a blood-curdling scream. Criminal Minds Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. The Guy On The Greyhound Bus was Vince Weiguang Li, a 40-year-old Chinese immigrant to Canada who left Edmonton, Alberta eastbound for Winnipeg in the Province of Manitoba. YOURE ON DEATH ROW WHATS YOUR LAST MEAL? When Vince Li committed the act that he did he had been suffering from undiagnosed schizophrenia, and was in the throes of a psychosis-induced episode. Just never let him out. Its bullshit. To many, it won't seem "right" that someone has to check in with the legal system forever just because he or she suffers from an illness and committed a crime, but at the same time, it's arguably worse to assume that everything is fine, to shrug off whatever act landed the individual in the justicesystem in the first place, and to blindly trust that he or she won't decide one day that medication is no longer needed. Ken Barker, a 27-year veteran afflicted with post-traumatic stress, is among 13 . Ambrose is smart enough to know that Li is not actually a criminalbut a little too politically minded, apparently, to care. ELISA LAMS GHASTLY DEATH AT THE NOTORIOUS CECIL HOTEL IN L.A. WHAT MAKES CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORISTS TICK? Its as simple as that. After the incident, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) attempted to run an ad in the Portage Daily Graphic comparing the killing of McLean to the consumption of animals. I don't hear voices," Summerville quoted Li as saying. WAS ALBERT DESALVO REALLY THE BOSTON STRANGLER? Records are sketchy about his mental assessments. Robyn Urback was an opinion columnist with CBC News and a producer with the CBC's Opinion section. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan ORG XMIT: WPGT105, tap here to see other videos from our team. By continuing to use our site, you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. They put far too much weight in academic opinions and not enough on what actually occurred. There are extensive videos and transcripts available on hours and hours of a forensic psychiatrist interviewing Li and trying to get inside his head. The police. Reddit's main subreddit for videos. Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). Around 8:30 pm, Greyhound 1170 was an hour west of Winnipeg on the TransCanada Highway. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vince-li-discharge-1.3977278. Hear about the horrific bond between two of the most high-profile Canadian killings: the Brentwood Five massacre and the Greyhound bus beheading. Follow her on Twitter at: To encourage thoughtful and respectful conversations, first and last names will appear with each submission to CBC/Radio-Canada's online communities (except in children and youth-oriented communities). But the aftermath was awful. He removed Tims heart, lungs and liver then ripped out entrails. Comments on this story are moderated according to our Submission Guidelines. Many of us like to think of ourselves as progressive thinkers on mental health, proudly tweeting #BellLetsTalk to try to erase the stigma around mental illness. They took Li to a secure hospital. I too used to think of Vince Li in an extremely negative light. But Tims family had no input. Two years later, he began unsupervised leave from the hospital but only for short periods. 5 KILLER TIPS FOR WRITING DEADLY CRIME FICTION, ELEVEN THINGS YOU CANT DO WHEN YOURE DEAD, NO WITNESSES TO NOTHING AMAZON BESTSELLER, STEMI 5 KNOWN REALITIES OF THE UNIVERSE, WRITING DEATH SCENES / PODCAST WITH THE CREATIVE PENN. This video answers the question: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the Tim McLean murder case? he is open to voluntarily having his medication monitored, lower than your chance of being struck by lightning. Its also the overall concepts of punishment, holding an offender accountable no matter what their mental state and ensuring the public is properly protected from future danger. The Manitoba Criminal Code Review Board. Li does not pose a risk to the public now that he is on his medication, according to the medical professionals who have treated him for the last near-decade. He will be escorted at all times by a staff member and a security officer. Tim McLean, who was returning home from work, boarded a Greyhound bus. "But what would be unforgivable for me would be to not do anything to try to prevent this from happening again by the same perpetrator. A witness said that Li showed no sign of rage or any other emotion throughout the entire attack, with his actions being "robotic" in nature and that he seemed oblivious to the presence of others. Li was controlled and they adjusted his medication. Its important to understand the difference between Vince Li suffering from psychosis and Vince Li. And its just as important to understand the difference between Vince Li before July 30, 2008, who didnt understand his illness, and Vince Li now, who has all the reason in the world to understand, and treat, his illness. God made me do it, Li said. Comments are welcome while open. INTERCONNECT FINDING YOUR PLACE, PURPOSE AND MEANING IN THE UNIVERSE. The board said the passes should only be granted if Li's treatment team believes his condition is stable and that it would be "appropriate and safe for him to leave the locked ward." WHO REALLY MURDERED AND MUTILATED THE BLACK DAHLIA? I don't think that should ever be an option.". She previously worked as a columnist and editorial board member at the National Post. Its the lunatics running the asylum. HOW TO WRITE A BOOK: JERRY B. 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Friends lost a guy whod give them the shirt off his back never mind a laugh from their innards. McLean was murdered by Vince Li in 2008.Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/drgrandeAmerican Psychiatric Association. He reclused like so many mentally-ill people do. 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That system is made of people. The Criminal Code Review Board in Manitoba said Monday it needs a few days to decide if Li gets the absolute discharge he is seeking. Particularly psychiatric degrees. Li now looked for an opportunity to use them. Vince Li was born and raised in China. Carol DeDelley, the victim's mother, called the board's decision unacceptable and vowed to continue her efforts to fight the law dealing with people found not criminally responsible. He motioned an invite to the seat. Vince Li, who beheaded a fellow passenger aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba nearly four years ago, believed he was chosen by God to save people from an alien attack. These guys can get crazier than The Guy on the Greyhound Bus. WINNIPEG Vince Li says he understands why people are still afraid of him. Little is known about his early life, but he did graduate from the Wuhan Institute of Technology and acquired a job as a computer software engineer. [1] [2] Incident [ edit] The Criminal Code Review Board said Vince Li's treatment team may grant him short escorted trips into the central Canadian city of Selkirk, Manitoba. WERE YOUA HUMAN BEINGDESIGNED BY A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE? THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan ORG XMIT: WPGT104, Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing, on Monday, February 6, 2017. Part Norman Bates. Please note that CBC does not endorse the opinions expressed in comments. After the judge's ruling, Li was placed in a locked wing of the Selkirk Mental Health Centre. Tldr: rehabilitation is a wonderful thing, but if you, without provocation, stab a sleeping person in the throat, saw their head off, eat their eyeballs and put their ears in your pockets as trophies while dangling their . (ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS MAKING YOU WANT TO PUNCH SOMEONE IN THE FACE). Women shrieked. The Guy on the Greyhound Bus got international attention. The reason Li had so dramatically short-circuited in 2008, and had begun to hear voices urging him to kill? Every piece of Tims body was defiled and strewn about the bus. Throughout the trial, Li only asked to be killed several times. Since that time, Li has undergone nearly nine years of psychiatric treatment, and his team of doctors and mental health workers have stated that he is a model patient. He blocked the door but police were miles away. Not only did he have the knifehe also had plastic bags to store separated itemspackaging pieces for some future purpose. Vince Li moved through the justice system quickly. Vincent Weiguang "Vince" Li is a Chinese-Canadian man who, on July 30, 2008, brutally killed and cannibalized a 22-year old Canadian man Timothy Richard "Tim" McLean, Jr.. After being apprehended following a 1-day stand-off, Li was found not guilty by reason of insanity and spent six years in a mental hospital before being released in 2015. Li was institutionalized sometime before gaining his citizenship after being found by officers "following the sun", something he claimed God told him to do. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan ORG XMIT: WPGT101, Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing, on Monday, February 6, 2017. Will Baker, centre, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing with his lawyer, Alan Libman, right, Monday, February 6, 2017. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan ORG XMIT: WPGT112, Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing, on Monday, February 6, 2017. Part Jeffrey Dahmer. Published in Volume 71, Number 21 of The Uniter (February 22, 2017). His own brain chemistry was failing him. Li slowly sat down. On 5 March 2009, his killer, the 40-year-old Vincent Weiguang Li ( Chinese: ; pinyin: L Wigung ), [1] was found not criminally responsible for murder and remanded to a high-security mental health facility in Selkirk, Manitoba, where he was detained until his release on 8 May 2015. Thats plain wrong. Since then I have been unable to think of July 30, 2008 with hatred in my heart only an unquantifiable sadness. I am glad to take it. He proceeded to dismember, decapitate, and cannibalize McLean's body while everyone else fled the bus and police arrived. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I wanted to reach out and give her my condolences because she essentially lost her brother that day as well when he crossed a line that can never be taken back. Tim McLean, 22. Li also told Summerville he would like to be forgiven. It could not have ended any uglier. While in the hospital, Li was sued by several of the bus's passengers and that had been present during the attack, as well as McLean's family members. Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Weiguang Li, killed 22-year-old Tim McLean after hearing what he thought was "the voice of God". Last May, Matthew de Grood was found not criminally responsible (NCR), meaning he was found to have been mentally ill at the time of the Brentwood stabbings. WAS NATALIE WOOD MURDERED BY HER HUSBAND, ROBERT WAGNER? They told investigators and profilers exactly what they wanted to hear. Husband, ROBERT WAGNER the difference between Vince Li can be trusted to take his medication monitored, than... 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