In between those placements, she slept at friends' houses for long periods. Fierceton believes it was likely sent by Morrison or one of her close relatives. And so youre becoming rather inconvenient to the university at that point , I would assume, which plays into the way that universities and elite structures think of diversity, I think. I think they have said, well, theres different definitions and the dean who is the dean of the grad school said: Well, thats not our definition. RG: I think for a lot of us, we have to sort of other poverty and abuse and put it in a box, partly, to protect ourselves. She shared with the former screenshots of online chats and printouts of emails with representatives of the, The Rhodes Trust report found that the Penn police had no records of any calls to them from Fierceton about this. But its interesting because most of the questions are about these applications and then the second half is when it turns to these questions of the abuse. In addition it offered details of what its own investigation had concluded about Fierceton's childhood and adolescence that led OSC to believe it was likely that she had exaggerated or fabricated outright her claims about her mother. As a result she withdrew from the Rhodes Scholarship; a sympathetic Penn faculty member has paid her Oxford tuition in its stead.[2]. This made Fierceton feel as if she were being watched for anything she did that could be used against the state's case by her mother. The reporter had assumed based on her status as a FGLI student which stands for first-generation, low-income that she had been poor her entire life. And so where is your story now? Like one of them was describing a biological child in a house as another foster child, and something about a half-brother or something.What were those and how were those errors kind of deployed against you? I had never heard of FGLI, but these labels resonated with a story I was still trying to process. And so thats the low-income box. And now they have to face the fact that someone who looks like them, who shares all these identities with them, could be the source of all of this harm. The article by reporter Rachel Aviv was called How an Ivy League School Turned Against a Student, and it tells the story of an extraordinary battle between Mackenzie and the University of Pennsylvania. Teachers and parents at Whitfield had donated new clothing and school supplies for her. Fierceton said that when she had applied to SP2 as a sophomore she had cleared it with the school's associate director of admissions, who told her that a student's biological parents were not relevant to that definition, and said the same thing in 2020 (Penn's OSC interviewed the associate director and SP2's associate director for financial aid whom Fierceton said she had a similar conversation with; neither remembered speaking with Fierceton about the issue)[1]:111112). Its just so obvious that you fit the criteria for low-income, but it seems like they feel like you dont fit it in the spirit of how they want it. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. My life is over, Im in the hospital, Im at rock bottom. RG: Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. MF: Yeah. For all the readers could have known, there could have been a videotape of it happening. And I was the one who uncovered my classmates death. So, yes, an article came out in the local paper saying that she had been arrested. Thats the reality of it, but we dont want to think of it that way. And did you find this after The New Yorker article was published? If we review your medical records, are we going to see you had broken ribs and facial injuries? Interesting. Thats not in question. Mackenzie Fierceton has lost her Rhodes Scholarship and her University of Pennsylvania master's degree is being held after an anonymous tipster called out alleged inaccuracies in her school. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. And the staff member saying like: I understand, can you please give Mackenzie an estimate of how many questions are left? And how much did she challenge your medical condition after that beating? In 2019, Fierceton testified in a court hearing that, in September 2014, her mother allegedly pushed her down a set of stairs and hit her in the face several times. Uh, my lawyer. [1]:115 As to her previous involvement with the child welfare system, Penn says Fierceton told them she was not certain, but she was referring either to the guardian ad litem appointed for her during her parents' divorce or an earlier incident when she and her biological parents were still living in Connecticut. RG: So one of the questions that you mentioned that they asked was about your essay , RG: which, correct me if Im wrong, but I think it begins saying something along the lines of: Youre in the hospital, you looked in the mirror, and you couldnt recognize yourself, you couldnt recognize your features. She expressed some concern to Penn staff that if she won, the media attention might incite her mother and her family to attack her reputation, and expressed on a form she filed with Penn as part of the process a concern of hers that FGLI students such as herself were "pressured to be someone they were not amidst their application process." Morrison told White in an email. University of Pennsylvania student Mackenzie Fierceton had her Rhodes Scholarship revoked and her master's degree withheld after allegations surfaced that she was lying about her. box, it's like you have to fit yourself in, saying: Are you the first in your family to attend? Mackenzies critics even began nitpicking how much blood was in her hair while she was in the intensive care unit. So you use what you have, uh, which are the definitions that were already out there. [1]:111112, Penn's investigators asked Fierceton why she had pretended to be asking on another's behalf when she made her queries within the university. I think there were almost 30 of those letters again, very similar to who had given statements in the past to corroborate my abuse as well as leaders in the FGLI community saying yes, we started this community. And I think I just share that because I think its a powerful example of if that is as far as theyre going to go when theres literal documentation from child me and that accusing me of that being faked, I really am like: I dont know, short of a video montage of instances of abuse from 6 to 16, what would convince them. And its funny, cause it just made me so frustrated and I actually went back and read it. Like, those two things dont fit together. [2], Brandt noted that Morrison never asked about, or expressed concern for, her daughter's well-being. Are we going to see these injuries? That was Mackenzie Fierceton and thats our show. They reported it to the state's child-abuse hotline. [2], In public, while she was at Whitfield, Morrison and her daughter seemed to evoke the Gilmore Girls, echoing that television series's main characters, a single mother and her precocious daughter with a close and strong relationship. Which as Im sure youve learned since is a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of poverty . Michael Hayes, who had prosecuted Morrison, told the Chronicle that "The more I learned, the less certain I became about what really happened. And what area of it are you going to explore with your Ph.D.? "[2], On her application, Fierceton recounted her background and the unexpected way it led to her becoming a foster child. One possible explanation for this depressing story is that Mackenzie Fierceton fraudulently accused her own mother of gravely abusing and attempting to kill her, spent 22 days in the hospital to . And even now, The New Yorker quotes a lot from my childhood journals describing my abuse. He died after a medical emergency in a basement of UPenn's Caster Building in 2018. [2], Fierceton was accepted at the University of Pennsylvania (commonly known as Penn) on a full scholarship, arranged through QuestBridge. But the outline of the story is this: Mackenzie was raised in a wealthy St. Louis suburb by a single mother who was repeatedly abusive, according to two state agencies. I mean, youd been taking loss after loss, despite having the facts on your side. She got straight A's, served in student government, managed the field hockey team, played varsity soccer, and volunteered to assist with the local Special Olympics. They had done their own investigation again, quotes on investigation and then I had submitted over a hundred pages of documents to them. She felt as if it might have been an attempt to intimidate her. And that is, I felt very defeated too. You have a good education and youre clearly smart. Mackenzie told the police her mother had pushed her down the stairs and struck her in the face. Yeah. [26] In the second, he wrote, "[y]ou could also conclude from Mackenzie Fierceton's story that there is no actual empathy within elite institutions unless you perfectly fit into the trauma hierarchy they have created, which preferences the types of overcoming-adversity stories they can place in a brochure. Is it as well explored territory as a school-to-prison pipeline? [2], DSS kept Morrison on its child-abuser registry, as it still believed the allegations to be founded, and a petition to its Child Abuse and Neglect Review Board to have her removed was denied. She arrives as a new student at Erinsborough High School and is connected to the . And I started interviewing people who were in the class where he died and who were in nearby classes where he died, who knew him, and paramedics who were Penn paramedics and just as many people as I could. And then theres the part that felt like: I have no idea whats going to convince these people if I gave them medical records, I gave them forensic photos of me taken in the hospital, I gave them again like corroboration from professors of like how I described myself, from leaders in the FIGLY community. I think [its] called Penn First, I believe, and it seems like you socially spent a lot of time with them? [2], At the end of 2013, in the middle of her sophomore year, Fierceton was admitted to St. Luke's, where her mother worked, with a head injury. [2] When she turned 18, she formally left foster care[d] but continued living with the family whose home she was in. So first-generation and/or low-income, again, is the acronym. Thank you so much for having me. So that was what that specific sentence in The New Yorker was referencing is this kind of condensing this group of people and to one sentence. As youve had time to sort through this, what do you think was driving Penn to go through this process, which they had to know, at some level, would cost them? So I could imagine why at some point youd be like, you know what, Im just not going to keep taking Ls here. Right. But there was another definition that was also along those lines that I fit, that was, again, public on the website. [2], Over the middle of 2020, Fierceton became active in the Black Lives Matter protests at Penn. That evening that the article came out is when I got a call from the reporter saying: I got this anonymous email that said X, Y, Z, and I wanted to let you know. You know, I honestly dont know. And at the time I was like: Why what? And how much confidence do you have that that anonymous complainer was Carrie, your biological mother. One of them, to me, felt pretty clear that it was probably from someone in my biological family, because it had photos of me; it had very specific information that very few people would have and I dont think many people would have random childhood photos of me. MF: Just a quick circling back, Im actually not sure if it was her who first reached out or if it was General Counsel Wendy White, because I later found out that they had a phone call about 36 hours after the article came out and seemed to talk pretty extensively, and then there were a lot of emails that happened. But she says she occasionally received packages at her dorm room containing objects she suspected had come from her mother, such as a bracelet with an inscription about finding the truth, or others close to her, such as a pair of sneakers, which she believed Lovelace, who had sometimes helped her stretch before workouts, had sent. MF: So those questions really came later. Uh, my lawyer. Within days of the article being published, the universitys general counsel was in touch with Mackenzies mother. And it has, has she stuck by that? [2], For her senior year, Whitfield gave Fierceton a full scholarship. RG: And how much did she challenge your medical condition after that beating? I said were almost done. If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to also check out Intercepted as well as Murderville, which is now in its second season. And I didnt get an answer. The 35-year-old has been hit with two warrants for his arrest. It's from there the story unraveled. The teen said she was sent to. Or do you think that the wheels were already in motion before that? Its a very under-researched field. How long were you in the hospital? So they didnt ask about that in this meeting. When they did, they were unable to get stretchers or backboards down Caster's stairways or elevators as there was insufficient space. And it became pretty clear to me that there had been a very similar delay in his care, but even worse dynamics. She ruined her moms career. Laura Flynn is our supervising producer. Fierceton. "[I]t was probably from someone in my biological family," she told The Intercept, "because it had photos of me; it had very specific information that very few people would haveand I don't think many people would have random childhood photos of me. It didnt, though, to the University of Pennsylvania. "It is seven years later, and I am still having to prove and prove and prove what has happened to me." What happened the night you ended up in foster care? And just Deputy Provost Finkelstein saying: No. "She lies better than I can tell the truth. First, Morrison had tried to send Fierceton some jewelry during her freshman year and contacted the university to find out how to get in touch with her; when Fierceton was informed of this she said she had a, "Regardless of the actual reason for her name change," Penn's lawyers write in their response to her lawsuit, "Fierceton effectively fastened a buffer of separation between her real life story and the false story she had cultivated for Penn and others. A graduate student named Mackenzie Fierceton was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship by the University of Pennsylvania in 2020 only to have it stripped from her a few months later after allegations. You have a good education and youre clearly smart. Youre welcome to talk to Penn Police or their Division of Special Services or the Womens Center, or any program that Ive been involved in, or people that have been involved in supporting me who can corroborate this. "[27], For the Penn investigation, Fierceton relied on the definition on the webpage for Penn First Plus, the university's support program for FGLI students, which includes the language about the student having a "strained or limited relationship" with the graduate parent. And we cant acknowledge that, so we then have to pick apart the other pieces of it, and say that well this, this just cant be real. MF: Yeah, it was, things like that where I simplified all of these foster kids that youre living with a biological family who have kids, which I would say are foster siblings. [1] It appended both the Rhodes report and OSC's as exhibits. But that was definitely a driving force for why I decided, ultimately, to withdraw because I felt like: OK, federal prison is no joke. But her mother wasnt finished with her. Her mothers name was entered into a registry of abusers. How do I do that in a succinct way when theres a very short word count and youre trying to fit everyones experience in?And so I didnt really think about: Oh, I need to say: This foster sibling who was in the foster care system. Logan filed her wrongful death suit in August 2020, alleging Penn was negligently responsible for her husband's death through failing to make Caster properly accessible and not making SP2 develop an emergency response protocol. I think its a reflection of the systemic prejudices . I have some of my own theories, but I want to hear yours. And she was shocked. And we had a fairly lengthy conversation, just kind of going through the ins and outs of my childhood and left it at, she was like: OK, I understand now and Im just going to leave this. Smith said he believed the university had decided before it began investigating that Fierceton's abuse allegations were false and that she had fabricated them with the goal of finding an easier way into Penn or another elite school. And she ended up responding right away, and asked to get on a phone call. Another program official that year recalls Fierceton as seeming more vulnerable than she let on; after picking her up from the hospital following bone surgery that year, she noticed that Fierceton had a very light winter coat and few other possessions. I wrote a poem about the actual what the message was, which is so cheesy and Im cringing at my 17-year-old self [laughs], but it was about the healing power of gratitude. Because that was one of the ones that really blew my mind. There was also the part of me that was terrified. Now anyone who earns that distinction is to be commended, but the article also noted that Mackenzie had aged out of foster care . Mackenzie Fierceton, a 2016 graduate of Whitfield School in Creve Coeur, lost the scholarship after allegations surfaced that she had provided "false narratives" to education officials, the New. In the lawsuit filed on Dec. 21, Fierceton, a 2021 School of Social Policy . The 23-year-old planned to use. And Penn is still claiming that those are fake journals. Yeah, so Penn First for the whole FGLI community. A former teacher in elementary school recalled that in one of those calls, Morrison made a reference to an earlier discussion of Fierceton's mental illness; the teacher did not remember any such conversation. MF: verbally. And to me, I'm like I am a household of one, so I am the only person in my family. [c] Chewing was difficult as well, and she had a feeding tube inserted. Morrison was arrested and charged with felony child abuse and third-degree assault (a misdemeanor) in the incident that had led to Fierceton's hospitalization, and an additional felony child abuse count for the incident that had triggered the DSS caseworker's visit earlier in the year; the arrest warrant alleged that Morrison had deliberately slammed her daughter's head into the table. Like there is more attention to systemic poverty and trying to keep children in their homes to begin with, I would say, which is important, because if you can keep kids in their homes, then theyre not in the system and facing that foster-to-prison pipeline. But part of it is funding decisions. And if you havent already, please subscribe to the show so you can hear it every week. And eventually they filed a big wrongful death lawsuit in August 2020. There was, yes, disagreement, because I said there was blood in my hair in the essay, they said there wasnt enough blood or there wasnt blood or something. woman who won a coveted scholarship in the US to study at Oxford after claiming she was poor, overcame childhood abuse and grew up in foster care lost the opportunity after it emerged she was. [5] She posted it before Fierceton's release from the hospital, and once free began calling Fierceton's friends and former teachers, telling them that Fierceton was having issues and had made it appear Morrison had beaten her. "We would never have believed any of it if we weren't living it." [2] She was also working two jobs, as a policy fellow with Philadelphia City Council and another interning in social work at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. MF: And its mentioned briefly. MF: She definitely asked some questions about it. [9][3], In her sophomore year, Fierceton, already majoring in political science,[3] decided to pursue social work as a career, with the goal of being a voice for children in foster care like the ones she had come to know. This can happen to someone in my community. So that was, I think later on that specific line came into question. Ultimately, she lost her Rhodes Scholarship, and Penn withheld her masters degree, demanding a letter of apology. But it was definitely something I saw happening sort of this funneling of kids from the child welfare to criminal justice system. Our greatest desire is that Mackenzie chooses to live a happy, healthy, honest, and productive life, using her extraordinary gifts for the highest good." RG: Right. So I kind of simplified that in a sentence to make my point of what I wanted to study, which was the foster-care-to-prison pipeline, which is also what I ultimately ended up doing my Ph.D. on and what I just started this year. And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. MF: No, I found it before. RG: And I just want to read this for people. At the end of the march they were addressed by Fierceton and other FGLI students. RG: And it has, has she stuck by that? There, she wandered the hallways until she found the history teacher, and collapsed. And theyll openly talk about this. Again following the advice of her college counselor, she did not identify her parents on her application, since she was estranged from both of them (she describes them both as "biological"[3][2]). Penn's Office of Student Conduct recommended withholding her master's degree until she paid a fine; both conditions were dropped but a notation about the investigative finding remains in her transcript. MF: I mean, part of it is honestly like its looking at cause we just wanted to be as thorough as possible of when [laughs] I was crying, and then I was crying and taking breaths. And back in high school, it was a similar thing. And Im kind of one of the lucky ones where I had really expansive and thorough documentation for all the parts of this story. My understanding is there were two anonymous emails. And then theres also foster siblings in the sense of other people who are in the foster care system who youre living with. When I came to Penn and saw all of these students who were living that life, there was a sense of community and solidarity amongst us, which was very powerful for me because I just felt so out of place. [f] Fierceton felt no ambivalence about her answer. And many more vicious sentiments. Morrison had told the admitting physician that she had not been present when her daughter was hurt but believed she had fallen down the stairs in the house, which the hospital accepted as the likely cause, even though her fearfulness was also noted. Did they make that threat in writing or was that . What was the response from the readers of the paper? The Intercept is an independent nonprofit news outlet. And then as the different internships, and then I went to get my masters in social work and all of this happened, I started to see that continue in different capacities while I was in different roles, seeing that theme in this relationship between foster care and the criminal justice system. Or whatever our kind of contemporary version of it is. Its hard to say. MF: Yeah. You know, I believe the first people who said that was the Rhodes Trust. Whereas a social worker comes into a poor home and looks around and sees just the normal poverty that our system has foisted on people and says: Oh, well, clearly this is somebody that needs to be stripped out of here. They didnt respond, though Mackenzies biological mother has denied the allegations of abuse. Anything in particular jump out at you after having read back over that transcript? And they were the ones I believe and this is public now because Penn attached it to their response to the lawsuit I filed and I believe they were the first ones to mention that I had gone to private school and that they were questioning if I was low-income. Its just so obvious that you fit the criteria for low-income, but it seems like they feel like you dont fit it in the spirit of how they want it. I mean, part of it is honestly like its looking at cause we just wanted to be as thorough as possible of when [laughs] I was crying, and then I was crying and taking breaths. Morrison then brought suit in circuit court to have the board's decision reviewed and reversed. And we spoke for a long time and I went through everything I had found. And then she hired a law firm and eventually they were doing their own investigation for several months. And I dont remember exactly what their statement was, but they disputed it. RG: Mhmm. MF: Yeah. She considered the advantages and disadvantages of reporting her mother, but ultimately feared she might not even be believed, as her mother would tell people she was mentally ill or lying. I think they have said, well, theres different definitions and the dean who is the dean of the grad school said: Well, thats not our definition. Yes, to my lawyer who communicated it to me. MF: And with that, like you said, notion of: Well, theres no way that you went to private school and all of this could have still happened, or that you could be low-income now and this idea that socioeconomic status is permanent. [2][4][15], After learning this, Fierceton and a fellow SP2 student began doing research. Well, Mackenzie, thank you so much for joining me and sharing your story. The award brings the number of Penn Rhodes Scholars to 31 since the scholarship's inception in 1902. So those questions came like later on and were really a part of the initial interrogation. In addition to reiterating many of the themes of comments made by her and her supporters in the previous articles, including criticism of the Rhodes and Penn investigations (the former of which Grim noted she was putting air quotes around when she mentioned it), she expressed a belief that her story had triggered a defensive anxiety in women like Finkelstein and White:[4]. Detective Carrie Brandt, who had been planning to follow up on the hotline report at Whitfield that day, instead interviewed Fierceton at the hospital. And what was the first-generation community like on campus? MF: Yes, definitely. I didnt encounter many of them in the two years that I was living in foster families. The department of social services substantiated Mackenzies allegations, as did the Missouri Child Abuse and Neglect Review Board, which is an independent state panel. His master's level university, Ivy College Pennsylvania, also failed to grant him the acquired master's degree . 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